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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_February_20
February 20
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:ABC News personalities
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 12:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Entertainers from Mobile, Alabama
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:48, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Also nominating for merging-
- Category:Entertainers from Selma, Alabama to Category:People from Selma, Alabama, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Florence, Alabama to Category:People from Florence, Alabama, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Huntsville, Alabama to Category:People from Huntsville, Alabama, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Gadsden, Alabama to Category:People from Gadsden, Alabama, by occupation
All categories with just 1 or 2 entries.Lost in Quebec (talk) 12:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:The Adventures of Tintin location redirects
[edit]- Propose merging Category:The Adventures of Tintin location redirects to Category:Tintin locations
- Nominator's rationale: There is no reason to categorize redirects separately, and the current method places Wikipedia maintenance/terms ("redirects") between mainspace pages (like Klow) and mainspace categories (like Category:Tintin locations): non-hidden categories should not contain Wikipedia stuff like this. Alternatively, remove the category from Category:Tintin locations and add the redirects to this category directly, and make the "redirects" category a hidden cat. Fram (talk) 08:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Fictional characters by work
[edit]- Merge Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium to Fictional characters by work
- Merge Category:Fictional characters by medium to Fictional characters by work
- Merge Category:Fictional characters by franchise to Fictional characters by work
Ok, so we have three trees all doing effectively the same thing:
- Category:Fictional elements by work
- Category:Fictional elements by medium
- And there is no Category:Fictional elements by franchise, they are just directly under Category:Mass media franchises.
And in looking at these: "by medium", is really "by medium of work", which we tend to categorise as "by work". And "by franchise", is really just "by related works".
These just create unnecessary intermediary layers between parent and child cats; and also broad segmentation of topics, which is a bane to navigation for our readers.
This is severe WP:OVERLAPCAT.
These trees all need cleanup. Elements of fiction (and related cats) are scattered everywhere. And the first step, I think, is that we need to unify under a single naming standard. Once we do that, we should be able to more easily clean up a lot of the mess.
So this is a test nom to see what we can decide about the "by work", "by medium", "by franchise", and "by franchise and medium", trees. I think they all need to be merged to a single tree of a unified name. What do you all think? - jc37 18:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge all as nom. - jc37 18:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- You're not supposed to "vote" on something where you're the nominator.★Trekker (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Consensus is not a vote. And I've been nominating things this way for decades. I have faith that the closer understands how to weigh consensus amongst commenters. - jc37 21:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- You're not supposed to "vote" on something where you're the nominator.★Trekker (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Franchise and work are not identical concepts, nor is medium to either of them.★Trekker (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- How would you define the difference between a work and a franchise? - jc37 21:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe the names of the three categories aren't clear enough, but the type of content in the three categories is very different. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- So that we're both on the same page, please show some examples of what you mean? - jc37 01:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- The first category contains e.g. Category:Film characters by franchise, the second contains e.g. Category:Film characters, i.e. its parent, and the third category contains e.g. Category:The Godfather characters, which is not a subcategory of Category:Film characters by franchise because there is also a novel. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Therein lies part of the problem.
- Ok, so we start at Category:Fictional characters
- Then we go to Category:Fictional characters by medium
- Then Category:Film characters
- Then Category:Film characters by franchise
- But then, as you note, Category:The Godfather characters is not in this chain at all.
- So now we need to go look at: Category:fictional characters, and then its subcat Category:Fictional characters by franchise. Where we now find Category:The Godfather characters.
- But if we merge the chains, then we would instead see these options:
- Go to Category:Fictional characters
- That category would have: Category:Fictional characters by work
- And that category would have (among others) two subcats:Category:Film characters and Category:Literary characters
- And from there, the reader could follow either tree to get to the subcat they are looking for: Category:The Godfather characters.
- And so the reader wouldn't have to search all over to figure out what tree to follow, it's a straight line to find exactly what is wanted.
- We don't need these intermediary levels which create duplicative trees. - jc37 23:16, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The first category contains e.g. Category:Film characters by franchise, the second contains e.g. Category:Film characters, i.e. its parent, and the third category contains e.g. Category:The Godfather characters, which is not a subcategory of Category:Film characters by franchise because there is also a novel. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- So that we're both on the same page, please show some examples of what you mean? - jc37 01:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rename the franchise ones to Category:Fictional characters by work, etc. to remove any ambiguity as to what belongs there. As it stands, the by-medium categories contain few articles directly, but in addition to the by-work categories they have other intersectional subcats like Category:Black characters in films. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:50, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Same problem:
- Category:Fictional characters
- Category:Fictional people by ethnicity
- Category:Fictional black people
- Category:Fictional black people by medium - Which also has Category:Fictional characters by medium as its parent cat.
- And then we get to: Category:Black characters in films
- There's no reason that Category:Fictional black people by medium can't be renamed to Category:Fictional black people by work (and categorized under Category:Fictional characters by work), and with the "by medium" tree gone, we're done. - jc37 23:36, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Same problem:
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A lot of different options are on the table; rename? Keep? Merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 07:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Economists from New York City
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Economists from New York City to Category:People from New York City
- Propose merging Category:Economists from Brooklyn to Category:People from Brooklyn
- Nominator's rationale: merge, trivial intersection between place of birth and later occupation. New York City is the only place we have done this for economists. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Brooklyn was an independent city from NYC for much of its history. Pre-20th century economists would not be from NYC.4meter4 (talk) 07:21, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- As they would be merged to Category:People from Brooklyn I can't see that as an objection. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment If you drill down deep enough category wise, Economists would go in Scientists from New York City or Brooklyn because they are social scientists. Secondly, the category is well populated. Because these professionals have rarely been categorized at the town level, there is Economists from Shanghai, does that mean it shouldn't be done if there are enough to categorize that way?Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Videographies of Canadian artists
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Small cat. Up-merge for now. 4meter4 (talk) 16:59, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- See similar nomination above. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 07:16, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Murdered American gangsters by criminal organization
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no need to isolate the specific organization, assuming we want to diffuse at the intersection of cause of death and occupation, and organization. SMasonGarrison 14:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Unsure. The target is going to become a bit messy with two diffusion criteria mixed up. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Murdered gangsters by organization as a missing subcategory of Category:Gangsters by organization. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:41, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Videographies of Australian artists
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Small cat. Up-merge for now. 4meter4 (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe not too small. Why not rename to Category:Lists of performances of Australian artists in media, aligned with the article titles? This also applies to the nominations below. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- I would support that.4meter4 (talk) 19:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's not small. It contains six items which is enough. The same about other nominated categories. Eurohunter (talk) 13:39, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Five articles (and a redirect) is not a small category. This is perfectly reasonable. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:24, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename?
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Category:Alumni lists
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Alumni lists to Category:Lists of people by educational affiliation
- Nominator's rationale: Use pre-existing category Gjs238 (talk) 15:08, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Fine to me, I was not aware of this category and I didn't saw it on any page that I added to my alumni category. I don't know how to merge categories though. PhotographyEdits (talk) 19:31, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Gjs238 Wait, I do actually disagree because not all articles are educational institutions. Examples include List of Clarion Writers Workshop alumni and List of Bell Labs alumni. PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- Manually merge. Some of the lists are already (or should be) in subcategories of the target. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on PhotographyEdits's most recent comment about articles like List of Clarion Writers Workshop alumni and List of Bell Labs alumni?
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Category:Works set in prison
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Forms a category loop with Category:Fiction set in prison, and contains no articles. All the other subcategories are already in the other category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- "Fiction set in X" categories normally only contain "Works set in X" and Fictional elements in X (mostly characters). This case is no exception to that. I tend to think that the "Fiction set in" category layer is redundant, rather than the "Works set in" layer. The works and fictional elements can be linked to each other in the header of the category page, just like songs and albums. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. This is the parent category. There is narrative non-fiction set in prison(s), and deleting this would result in removing those works from the category tree. This also includes any future works that are created which is highly likely. Further I note that Category:Documentary films about the penal system (which is non-fiction) is part of Category:Films set in prison so really the Medium by setting tree is better suited to the "works by setting" structure because the medium cats by setting do not inherently sort out fiction from non-fiction. The whole Fiction by setting category structure is badly conceived and should probably be deprecated. If a deletion happens it should be the fiction category that is deleted after being merged to this one.4meter4 (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I just tagged Category:Fiction set in prison (for merging to Category:Works set in prison). Essentially a reverse merge. If someone would like to relist this : ) - jc37 18:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Reverse merge and purge As noted above, "Works" is the broader cat. And I'm looking at the "fiction" cat, and it's filled with films and songs, etc., so UpMerging would be appropriate. It also has characters, which aren't settings nor are they fictional works that are set anywhere. And for that matter, it also has fictional settings, which shouldn't be here either. In other words, these are fictional elements, not the works of fiction themselves. See also: Category:Fictional elements by work. And while we do not have Category:Fictional characters by work, we do have: Category:Fictional locations by work. What we don't have: Category:Fictional characters by fictional work setting. Nor do we have: Category:Fictional places by fictional work setting. Sounds like too many intersections for categorizing. - jc37 18:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Reverse merge as suggested by jc37?
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Category:Law of Middle East and North Africa
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Not sure how this newly created, uncategorized category fits in with Category:Law by continent, Category:Law in Africa, Category:Law in Asia Gjs238 (talk) 02:00, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Middle Eastern law is a coherent regional category, subject of a literature, etc, more than (say) African or Asian law. In this sense it is similar to the existing Category:Law_in_East_Asia. It's a practical category for discovery. Also, my students are using it in a WikiEdu project this semester: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Florida_State_University/Legal_History_of_the_Modern_Middle_East_(Spring_2025). I created the category to help them find pages to improve. Will Hanley (talk) 19:51, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Split to Category:Law in the Middle East and Category:Law in Africa. We do not usually group the Middle East and North Africa together in categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:39, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- I am not sure why Category:Law in Asia needs to be diffused by region. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- The purpose of Wikipedia categories is discovery, not taxonomy. Law in Middle East and North Africa (like law in East Asia) forms a coherent subject because it involves common genealogies and family resemblances amongst the laws practiced in the successor states to Islamic empires, which spanned several continents. These two categories are only secondarily geographical categories. They are more like Category:Civil law (legal system) and Category:Common law. Will Hanley (talk) 18:35, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Question: This sounds like Islamic law. Would you apply this to Israel as well?
- Gjs238 (talk) 21:44, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Islamic law is one of the components in the regional legal system, which certainly includes Israel. For example, there are plenty of Ottoman property law inheritances in Israeli law. Also, the sectarian personal status regime in Israel resembles those of other MENA states more than states outside the region.
- Will Hanley (talk) 17:46, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep for the reasons I outline in my replies above. Will Hanley (talk) 13:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I currently see rough consensus that something needs to change. Should the category be split, deleted, or "other"? (Of course, consensus can change and consensus could be found to keep the category!) If split, what should the split targets be?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 07:01, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- If kept, rename to something more idiomatic, e.g. Category:Law of the Middle East and North Africa or Category:Law in the Middle East and North Africa, both of which add a definite article. Ham II (talk) 10:08, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Colombian people of Palestinian descent
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry, also merge to Category:Colombian people of Asian descent.
Also nominating: Category:Paraguayan people of Palestinian descent to merge to Category:South American people of Palestinian descent. LibStar (talk) 03:07, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Dual merge both per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Red Ukrainian Galician Army people
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Red Ukrainian Galician Army people to Category:Ukrainian Galician Army
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this category is very underpopulated with only Vasyl Poraiko in it SMasonGarrison 23:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Just delete, there is no information about this army in the sole article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:55, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Fine with me SMasonGarrison 02:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:55, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:26, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Two-year college sports in the United States
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: In the context of intercollegiate sports, "junior college" (or its acronym, "JUCO") is far more common than "two-year college". Jweiss11 (talk) 21:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I'm looking at Category:Two-year colleges in the United States. And it says that the inclusion criteria is: " all two-year postsecondary institutions in the United States (both active and defunct), including community colleges, junior colleges, military junior colleges and vocational and technical colleges". And that one of the subcats of the nominated cat is: Category:California Community College Athletic Association- jc37 15:47, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, per the above. And I think the "junior college" subcats probably should be renamed to "Two-year college" as well. - jc37 15:47, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jc37:, Can an you show me uses of "Two-year college sports" in the United States? The phrases "junior college basketball" (198,000 hits on Newspapers.com) and "junior college football" (127,000 hits) are common, while the phrases "two-year college basketball" (2,700) and "two-year college football" (4,600) are relatively obscure. Yes the California Community College Athletic Association is a association for junior college or JUCO sports, not "two-year college sports". Jweiss11 (talk) 18:40, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is WP:OVERLAPCAT. We obviously do not need separate category trees for community colleges and junior colleges and vocational schools, etc. So it's better to have a Neutral name which encompasses both/all. And the parent cat is called: Category:Two-year colleges in the United States. If there is a better name, I'm all ears. - jc37 18:53, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- I take your failure to provide any examples as an admission that "two-year college sports" and sport-specific variants of such are not commonly used. What you're missing here with your pivot is that common usage is different when talking about sports versus the academic institutions themselves. Should I have bolded the intro to my nomination, which reads "In the context of intercollegiate sports...".? Jweiss11 (talk) 18:58, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- No, I'm saying that the terms are pretty much used interchangeably. Looking at community college and junior college, I'm not seeing much of a difference in usage. Why should one be picked over the other? - jc37 19:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- You're still missing the point, somehow. Are you looking at sports-specific content? Jweiss11 (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- No, I'm saying that the terms are pretty much used interchangeably. Looking at community college and junior college, I'm not seeing much of a difference in usage. Why should one be picked over the other? - jc37 19:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- I take your failure to provide any examples as an admission that "two-year college sports" and sport-specific variants of such are not commonly used. What you're missing here with your pivot is that common usage is different when talking about sports versus the academic institutions themselves. Should I have bolded the intro to my nomination, which reads "In the context of intercollegiate sports...".? Jweiss11 (talk) 18:58, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is WP:OVERLAPCAT. We obviously do not need separate category trees for community colleges and junior colleges and vocational schools, etc. So it's better to have a Neutral name which encompasses both/all. And the parent cat is called: Category:Two-year colleges in the United States. If there is a better name, I'm all ears. - jc37 18:53, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jc37:, Can an you show me uses of "Two-year college sports" in the United States? The phrases "junior college basketball" (198,000 hits on Newspapers.com) and "junior college football" (127,000 hits) are common, while the phrases "two-year college basketball" (2,700) and "two-year college football" (4,600) are relatively obscure. Yes the California Community College Athletic Association is a association for junior college or JUCO sports, not "two-year college sports". Jweiss11 (talk) 18:40, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Junior college is the common name for this stuff. Please see the National Junior College Athletic Association, which includes military colleges. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:35, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Music videographies
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Music videographies to Category:List of performances by entertainer in media
- Nominator's rationale: The term videography is being misused in this case as the term is specific to work done by a videographer, and does not mean a list of videos or films (that use is a neologism original to wikipedia which should be edited out as unverifiable). Further, many of the individuals have entertainment credits in work other than video (such as computer games, discographies, acting credits for entertainers who do that as well as music, etc.) on these pages so the cat should reflect that by expanding the scope to all media to reflect the content across the lists. 4meter4 (talk) 19:54, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment When I created this category it was for articles like Michael Jackson videography, which are still named that. I don't think "performances by entertainer in media" is a very helpful, clear, or easy to use term. "Media" is way too broad a term and confusing. At least use something like "on screen" or similar. "Videography" is at least easy for a reader to understand what it is.★Trekker (talk) 20:02, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Such an undertaking would have been well served being discussed first before wholesale name changes to articles. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Except the term "videography" does not mean a list of videos. Its use in that way is unique to wikipedia and is an unverifiable neologism not supported in sources outside of the encyclopedia. Per WP:NEO, the MJ article needs to be renamed, and the term videography needs to be removed when being used to refer to a video list in all articles across the encyclopedia as that is WP:OR. We can't just make up new definitions to words because it is convenient to do so. Additionally, most of these articles have media credits in a variety of media all on one page (TV, Film, music videos, streaming platforms, radio, computer games, etc.) and in multiple areas of creative contribution in over half of the cases (music performance credits, acting credits, dancing/choreography credits, directing credits, writing credits, producing credits, etc.) 4meter4 (talk) 20:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Such an undertaking would have been well served being discussed first before wholesale name changes to articles. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Ukrainian politicians before 1991
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Selective merge these Overlapping categories. There's really no need to cut the category exactly at 1991, when the norm is to diffuse by century. SMasonGarrison 02:21, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Split to Category:Politicians from the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and Category:20th-century Ukrainian politicians. Most of the content belongs in the former, but what doesn't belong there can be put in the latter. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:West Frisian language
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:West Frisian language to Category:West Frisian languages
- Nominator's rationale: The scope of the category is a bit broader than Westlauwers Frisian. Arctic Circle System (talk) 01:50, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rename, the category also contains articles like Hindeloopen Frisian. Alternatively split between Category:West Frisian languages and Category:West Frisian language, just like we have two articles West Frisian languages and West Frisian language. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:General Service Areas in Nova Scotia
[edit]- Propose merging Category:General Service Areas in Nova Scotia to Category:Communities in Nova Scotia
- Nominator's rationale: The term "General Service Area" is obsolite, and replaced with term "community". The category itself was technically replaced with "Category:Communities in Nova Scotia, but articles were not moved over. I believe it would be better to merge it with it, and maybe later let people move articles into appropriate subcategories. Also, the category already have addonation in its description that it "should no longer be used". Artemis Andromeda (talk) 01:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note So, while making this discussion, I thouth there was a "Category:Communities in Nova Scotia". However, there is only "Category:Communities in Nova Scotia by county". Which I think is the reason why articles were not move over, since it would require lot's of manual work. But I think, it would still be better to create this category, and move there articles from Category:General Service Areas in Nova Scotia, to remove this obsolite category altogher for now. And maybe somebody will want to move all the articles manually to subcategories in the future.Artemis Andromeda (talk) 01:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:Uprisings of Poland
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Uprisings of Poland to Category:Rebellions in Poland
- Nominator's rationale: I believe "Category:Uprisings of Poland" and "Category:Rebellions in Poland" cover the same topic, splitting it arbitrary into two. There isn't a clearly defined definition of an "uprising" separating it from a "rebellion". Additionally, the conflicts there have various names, such as rebellion, revolution, war, uprising, insurrection, and seem to be for the most part categorized at random or "by vibes". I belive it would be better to merge those two categories into one. Artemis Andromeda (talk) 00:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, this looks like a textbook case of WP:SHAREDNAME. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Category:NJCAA athletics
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:NJCAA athletics to Category:NJCAA schools
- Nominator's rationale: "Athletics" is redundant and meaningless here. This category actually contains schools that are members of the National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA); new name parallels the categories found at Category:Universities and colleges in the United States by athletic conference. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:29, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom, or maybe Category:NJCAA colleges. I think the category should only contain articles, not subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target?
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Category:Sinhalese queens regnant
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Sinhalese queens regnant to Category:Sinhalese queens
- Nominator's rationale: There is only one subcategory of this category and not likely to be any more. Векочел (talk) 23:00, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Векочел: you tagged Category:Sinhalese queens and that is the more likely category to be upmerged indeed, namely to Category:Sinhalese monarchs. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
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Category:United States secretaries of the treasury
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The Treasury refers to a proper noun. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 02:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment, interestingly the article mentions this: "The department is customarily referred to as "Treasury", solely, without any preceding article – a transitional remnant from British to American English." I do not know if this is correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Responses to Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:05, 9 February 2025 (UTC)- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- @Neveselbert: do you have anything to add on my comment? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 20 February 2025 (UTC)