Talk:Rosa Parks
![]() | Rosa Parks is currently a World history good article nominee. Nominated by Spookyaki (talk) at 21:30, 23 March 2025 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria and will decide whether or not to list it as a good article. Comments are welcome from any editor who has not nominated or contributed significantly to this article. This review will be closed by the first reviewer. To add comments to this review, click discuss review and edit the page. Short description: American civil rights activist (1913–2005) |
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"White" of "white"
[edit]Why does the article use uppercase white? Graham Beards (talk) 12:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Graham Beards:, I see you have now fixed this. You are correct, of course. Mike Marchmont (talk) 12:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- That would have been because of MOS:RACECAPS. Schazjmd (talk) 14:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- whats this 50.171.194.194 (talk) 18:58, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with lowercase white. It now needs Blacks to be in lowercase also to be consistent.
Parks recalled going to elementary school in Pine Level, where school buses took white students to their new school and Black students had to walk to theirs:
must be wrong. - Is
I'd see the bus pass every day ... But to me, that was a way of life; we had no choice but to accept what was the custom. The bus was among the first ways I realized there was a Black world and a White world.
an exception as the 'worlds' counter each other. Is ita Black World and a White World
, I am unsure. BlueWren0123 (talk) 20:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)- @BlueWren0123 @Graham Beards @Mike Marchmont I agree. It needs to be equal. If Black is capitalized, then White should be capitalized. If not, then both should be uncapitalized. AppGoo0011 (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- I’m black 62.30.197.81 (talk) 13:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
"Black" or "black"
[edit]Following on from the change of White -> white, I have also suggested similar for general statements such as a group of Black men falsely accused
where it is a generic grouping. I think that Black community
should stay as is. I will wait awhile to see if anyone comments. It would in any event be good for another editor to review if I make the changes. BlueWren0123 (talk) 12:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think the word "black"/"Black" should follow however "white"/"White" is capitalized. AppGoo0011 (talk) 22:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, it was rather carelessly implemented. I tried to change some of it, but I'm heading to sleep, so if anyone wants to take over, be my guest. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 07:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2024
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Little studied is the impact of Rosa Parks' robust yoga practice in her activism. In 1973, she started demonstrating her yoga at activist gatherings. Historian Natalia Mehlman Petrzela writes in her book Fit Nation (2022) that it "was important to her life but long unacknowledged as part of her civil-rights activism". A photograph available in the Library of Congress shows her in 1973 in leotards on her knees on a yoga mat. Queen Peen (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please specify the requested changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide reliable sources if appropriate. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 19:36, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
SFN Conversion
[edit]Hello! I am about to convert a number of the citations to SFN style in anticipation of a major overhaul as part of WikiProject Women in Green (see Talk). If there are any issues with the new citations, please feel free to correct them or point them out on this talk page. Thank you for your patience. Spookyaki (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Add line break between the education/schools listed in the infobox.
Rosa Parks | |
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![]() Parks in 1955, with Martin Luther King Jr. in the background | |
Born | Rosa Louise McCauley February 4, 1913 Tuskegee, Alabama, U.S. |
Died | October 24, 2005 Detroit, Michigan, U.S. | (aged 92)
Resting place | Woodlawn Cemetery, Detroit |
Education | Montgomery Industrial School for Girls Alabama State Teachers College for Negroes (now Alabama State University |
Occupation | Civil rights activist |
Known for | Montgomery bus boycott |
Movement | Civil Rights Movement |
Spouse(s) | Raymond Parks (m. 1932; died 1977) |
Signature | |
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Ww55d (talk) 05:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Done, Thank you for both a good find and suggestion and for bringing it to the attention of the talk page. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
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Please change "The crowd The crowd overwhelmingly supported continuing the boycott" to "The crowd overwhelmingly supported continuing the boycott" 59.182.201.3 (talk) 17:49, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing this out! Spookyaki (talk) 18:45, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
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Nominator: Spookyaki (talk · contribs) 21:30, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Noleander (talk · contribs) 01:01, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Review by Noleander
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Comments from Noleander
[edit]- First, thanks for working on this article about an important figure in US history. Stats show you wrote 67% of the prose, so you did some work.
- Overall, looks like a very, very nice article. I see no problem getting GA for this.
- Thank you! It's also pretty long, so thanks for taking the time to review it. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ambiguity Parks was the 31st individual, and the second private citizen, to be laid in state, following French urban planner Pierre L'Enfant. "following" could mean (a) Pierre L'Enfant was the first private citizen; or (b) he was the prior person laid in state private or public. I speculate it is the former.... but why make the reader work to figure it out? Consider: Parks was the 31st individual, and the second private citizen, to be laid in state (following French urban planner Pierre L'Enfant). or Parks was the 31st individual, and the second private citizen, to be laid in state.[footnote here about 1st private citizen]
- Done. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Connect two separate texts, if appropriate: Before December 1955, several people were arrested for declining to give up their seats on Montgomery buses. Maxwell Air Force Base employee Viola White was arrested in 1944, ..... Additional arrests included Aurelia Browder on April 29, 1955, and Susie McDonald on October 21, 1955.[62] Smith, Colvin, Browder, and McDonald were the plaintiffs in the 1956 lawsuit ... and Theoharis states that Parks's "act was separated from a community of people who prepared the way for her action", .... If those two are related, consider adding some text to connect them.
- Ultimately, I decided it made more sense to just remove the latter Theoharis quote. It's actually referring primarily to her civil rights activism outside of her refusal to move, but it's not really clear from the quote. Spookyaki (talk) 03:57, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- On the same two sections of text: Before December 1955, several people were arrested for declining to give up their seats on Montgomery buses. Maxwell Air Force Base employee Viola White was arrested in 1944, ..... Additional arrests included Aurelia Browder on April 29, 1955, and Susie McDonald on October 21, 1955.[62] Smith, Colvin, Browder, and McDonald were the plaintiffs in the 1956 lawsuit ... and Theoharis states that Parks's "act was separated from a community of people who prepared the way for her action", .... I seem to recall reading several years ago that there was some envy or sense of unfairness that Parks was singled out for attention, when there were other activists that played comparable roles in the Montgomery activism. I don't see any explicit mention of that envy/unfairness. But maybe I'm recalling incorrectly. Not saying it has to be in the article for GA, but if you take it to FA it should be there.
- I believe that's true. I'll look for some sources that discuss this and maybe make some adjustments to the historiography section. Hopefully will adress the above point as well. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, added a paragraph to "Historiography". Spookyaki (talk) 03:57, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- I believe that's true. I'll look for some sources that discuss this and maybe make some adjustments to the historiography section. Hopefully will adress the above point as well. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- See also section: good that the links have some brief text after them. Consider using template {{Annotated link}} which will provide that text automatically. Not required for GA, just a suggestion.
- To be honest, didn't touch the See also section much myself, but will make the adjustment. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Further reading source Morris, Aldon (Summer 2012). "Rosa Parks, Strategic Activist .... cite should have a | ref=none tag. Not required for GA, just a suggestion. Without that tag, article QA tools show a warning for that source: "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFMorris2012."
- Done. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alphabetizing: See Also section: it is customary to list articles in alphabetical order. Not required for GA, but you'll need to do that if you take the article to FA.
- Done. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alphabetizing: Category list at bottom: it is customary to list articles in alphabetical order (except the "Rosa Parks" category must be first). Not required for GA, but you'll need to do that if you take the article to FA.
- Done, I think. Spookyaki (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- I ran the copyright violation tool and it said there are no problems. Tool at https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Rosa+Parks&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0
- Clarify wording in lead? Parks faced financial hardship and health issues as a result of her participation in the boycott, leading her to relocate to Detroit, Michigan This seems to suggest that the finance/health issues were the direct cause of the move; e.g. in Detroit there was special medical care and a solid job offer. But when reading the body text, it paints a different story: the health/financial issues kinda led he to move around a bit, and she eventually ended up in Detroit. Consider (in the lead) separating the two thoughts into two sentences? Parks faced financial hardship and health issues as a result of her participation in the boycott. She traveled around the country, eventually relocating in Detroit, Michigan or skip the financial issues entirely (in lead): In 19xx Parks relocated to Detroit, Michigan
- She didn't really travel around the country. She was offered a position in Tennessee, but did not take it, and worked briefly in Virginia (while her family was still in Detroit). You're right that it wasn't strictly the financial hardship/health issues that led her to move. Tensions with the MIA/threats to her safety also played a significant role. I'll go with the latter wording. Spookyaki (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- clarify wroding: Alabama and other southern states began implementing segregationist policies during the 1870s and 1880s, culminating in a 1901 constitutional convention that formally codified Jim Crow segregation into law. U.S. readers will think "constitutional convention" is a federal event, for the federal constitution. Is there a way to let readers know it was specific to Alabama? Maybe Several southern states began implementing segregationist policies during the 1870s and 1880s. Alabama held a constitutional convention in 1901 that formally codified Jim Crow segregation into law.
- Changed wording to "state constitutional convention". Spookyaki (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ambiguity: Responding to a plan by city officials to stall Parks's case in state circuit courts, Gray filed suit in federal court. While Parks was initially included as a plaintiff in this case, she was eventually removed to avoid federal dismissal on the grounds that her case was already being heard in Alabama's state court.[97] In the end, the case was brought before... It is not clear if "the case was brought" [near the end of this quote] refers to the federal case (that excludes Parks) or to Parks state case.
- Clarified. "In the end, the federal case excluding Parks was brought before the Supreme Court as Browder v. Gayle, which ruled the statute mandating segregation of Montgomery buses unconstitutional." Spookyaki (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Connect two items: ... Little Caesars owner Mike Ilitch offered to pay for her housing expenses indefinitely. and When her rent became delinquent and her impending eviction was publicized in 2004,.. If sources are available, article should answer: Did Ilitch fulfill his promise or not? Was he paying cash to some fund, and the fund managers were embezzling? It's kind of a big deal, because there are tons of social media posts in U.S. over the past decade repeating the statement that "Little Caesers founder paid Rosa Parks rent for the rest of her life" and that should be confirmed or denied in this article, if sources exist.
- I found this source Snopes ... and that refers to source "WXYZ-TV. "Mike Ilitch Paid for Rosa Parks' Housing for More Than a Decade." 11 February 2017." Snopes is a medium-strong source, but not the best.
- So I'm not entirely clear on this. Snopes is actually citing the Sports Business Journal, which is already cited in the article, where judge Damon Keith, who allegedly ran the trust (paid for by Ilitch), confirms that Parks received checks from Ilitch. However, as you say, this doesn't quite square with the fact that Parks was almost evicted in 2002. It definitely seems plausible that this discrepancy is related to the alleged mismanagement of funds, but that's just speculation. For now, I will add that
According to journalist Christopher Botta, writing for the Sports Business Journal, judge Damon Keith subsequently administered a trust disbursing checks from Illitch to Parks on a regular basis.
What do you think? Spookyaki (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- So I'm not entirely clear on this. Snopes is actually citing the Sports Business Journal, which is already cited in the article, where judge Damon Keith, who allegedly ran the trust (paid for by Ilitch), confirms that Parks received checks from Ilitch. However, as you say, this doesn't quite square with the fact that Parks was almost evicted in 2002. It definitely seems plausible that this discrepancy is related to the alleged mismanagement of funds, but that's just speculation. For now, I will add that
- I found this source Snopes ... and that refers to source "WXYZ-TV. "Mike Ilitch Paid for Rosa Parks' Housing for More Than a Decade." 11 February 2017." Snopes is a medium-strong source, but not the best.
- Images at bottom of "Historiography" section: not really relevant to Histography. Consider creating a section named "Gallery" there. See WP:GALLERY. Generally, galleries are discouraged for articles that are not about art/artists/architecture ... but I think an exception can be made here.
- Sure, that makes sense. Originally the gallery was appended to the "Legacy and honors" section as a whole, which did not have a "Historiography" section. I've placed it in its own section. Spookyaki (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Archive information for sources that have URLs: example {{cite book |last=Theoharis |first=Jeanne |title=The Rebellious Life of Mrs. Rosa Parks |publisher=Beacon Press |url=https://archive.org/details/rebelliouslifeof0000theo_i7s2/ |publication-place=New York |date=2015 |isbn=978-0-8070-7692-7}} Typically, a cite that includes the "url" tag should also include a "access-date" tag which specifies the day the editor read the source (e.g. access-date=April 3, 2025). The purpose of the access-date tag is to assist the WP bot that goes thru articles and finds the arcived version of the source in the Internet Archive ... the bot will add an "archive-url" tag; the bot scans all articles in WP about once a month. For the bot to properly do its job, it needs to know what day the editor read/saw/visited the source url. The bot will find that specific date's backup copy and put that into the archive-url tag. That is all automatic. But if the editor did not include the "access-date" tag, the bot does not know what date to use. For urls that are static & not changing, such as "cite book" sources that use a Google Books url, adding "access-date" is not too important; bit it is important for citations to urls that (a) may disappear; (b) may evolve the content; or (c) may reogranize their web site so the page moves to a new url. Adding "access-date" is not required for GA, but I thought you'd want to know, since this article is so fantastic, it is nearly perfect.
- Done, though I should note that I'm using my own copy of the book. The IA copy was already linked in the article, and it seemed like it would be useful to somebody who might be wanting to check the sources, so I left it in. Spookyaki (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Coverage: article covers the article broadly & to appropriate depth
- Neutral POV: Article has a neutral POV
- Sources: I did a casual spot-check of a couple of sources, and they look okay.
- Images: I checked images for copyright, and they seem to have proper free-use support.
- That is all I have. Notify me when you have addressed/resolved the above, and I'll do the the GA pass action. Note that some of the above are optional suggestions. Noleander (talk) 01:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi! I believe most concerns have been addressed. Let me know what you think about the Ilitch stuff. Spookyaki (talk) 17:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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